Smokey Valley Kennel ( since 1976 ) ( Blue )
blue french bulldog
No Blues allowed Breed No D. Q. colors
D.Q. color's : ( Chocolates ) Liver , (Blue ) Mouse, Solid Black, Black/Tan, Black/white
Just so you will know there are many reasons to not breed the DQ colored dogs such as health related issues and possible color dominance and also because you can't have your cake and eat it too.
If you breed AKC dogs then you need to breed to The Standard as best you can and color is an easy one to be able to avoid.
Anyone with the odd colored dogs in any breed are just breeding them to make money and will not be there in a few years when it all hits the fan or
when the market for them dries up.
Just like the Puggles and labradoodles etc... no difference , a glut on the market and many now out of them because they can't sell the pups.
But there is a real concern when it comes to color dominance which is likley one of the biggest reason all those many years ago that those colors were not acceptable.
Once those colors are in the lines they take over and bring with them the problems.
The only breed I know of that has blues with no skin problems are Weimaraners and even they have two coat types and two actual colors also which is likley their saving grace for skin problems.
Black/ Tan is a VERY dominant color/coat pattern and liver and mouse are dilute colors and almost all dilutes no matter the breed have problems not to mention that they also bring with them other things like light pigment and light colored eyes, also DQ faults in almost every breed of dog.
So add those two other things to the list of not acceptable to the breed standard and there you go again, breeding just pets now with problems to sell to the ones that are least able to handle them both emotionally and financially, the pet owners.
So cute to look at they will pollute the gene pool and will make it that much harder for the folks doing all we can to have happy healthy dogs,
no matter if they are pet or show.
Also those colors also came from the out cross of several other breeds all those many many years ago and so if they didn't allow those colors then maybe its because they knew something we don't.
They also likley didn't get for example, a terrier look or temperament if they don't have any black and tan dogs in the lines.
In the blues which likley came from a mastiff type dog like the Neapolitan and the Bordeaux type dogs and we certainly don't want those skin problems,
the size or that drool!
As for the solid black, it can likley easily become dominate and we would never have the lovely creams and fawns we all love not to mention the fawn and red pied.
So those old folks likely DID know what they were doing and we should take heed as once they are back it would take another 200 years to get rid of it!
Until the last few years as few at 5 or 7, you would never have even heard of those colors except in old info. or puppy mill stock.
Its my opinion that most ARE NOT purebred though they are likley several generations near pure now, but that does NOT make them purebreds...
once crossed or mixed always such and NEVER pure.
These odd colors were not seen in other breeds either until just the last few years when the Russian and overseas markets started coming over here in large numbers,
breeding the odd colors for big money to the dumb Americans willing to pay for it.
ONLY AKC does DNA testing on dogs, no other countries do and AKC does only if you have over 8 litters a year. So most don't reg. the dogs with AKC.
They are able they sell the pups with a different Assoc. paperwork that is able to be reg.
AKC and so if the new owner wants to do so they can. Most don't but in time this will catch up with them but that breeder will be long gone.
And that is another time bomb waiting to catch up with someone.
We will never go there, please don't either.
Articles of Interest: Blue Gene blue french bulldog
French Bulldog Club of Western Canada
If a breeder tells you that blue French
Bulldog puppies are rare and worth a great deal more than an ordinary
coloured Frenchie, then BEWARE. Other than the person breeding specifically
for blue French Bulldogs, the colour blue has no more monetary value than
any other colour. This breeder is either not knowledgeable or not interested
in breeding strong healthy dogs that will enhance the breed in the future.
Blue, charcoal grey, or mouse are a disqualifying colours in every country that breeds them, and all are usually referred to as ‘blue’. The blue or charcoal grey colour is a dilution of black and is caused by the melanophilin gene (MLPH). A dog born thus affected is termed as ‘born blue’ since it is present at birth.” Genetically, they are considered DD, Dd or dd. The colour can result from inbreeding.
Many breeders learn the pedigrees of their dogs, have at least an basic understanding of the genetics that produce their dogs, and therefore avoid producing disqualifying traits. Reputable breeders try to improve the health of their dogs so they breed characteristics that will enhance the breed. Light eyes are inconsistent with a dog bred as a companion and are more likely to occur through inbreeding.
Those that breed specifically for a ‘blue’ colour overlook issues such as light eyes, skin conditions and lack of a black nose. Light eyes are inconsistent with a quality companion dog . Light eyes and the lack of a black nose are, in fact, disqualifying traits when French Bulldogs are shown. Black Hair Follicular Dysplasia and Color Dilution Alopeicia are skin conditions and are directly related to the dilute gene. These afflictions are sometimes referred to as the “Blue Dog Syndrome” and neither are a minor fault. It is also believed that a compromised immune system is related to the blue gene in more ways than just skin issues.
So it is very risky to breed for this colour in French Bulldogs, and no knowledgeable and reputable breeder actively tries to produce Blue French Bulldogs.
Article from : French Bulldog Club of Western Canada
COLOR AND THE FRENCH BULLDOG BREED STANDARD
The Constitution of The French Bull Dog Club of America says: "The objects of
the club shall be . . . to urge members and breeders to accept the standard of the
breed as approved by the American Kennel Club as the only standard of
excellence by which French Bulldogs shall be judged
Our Standard has included basically the same color requirements and
disqualifications since they were added in 1911. During the intervening 97 years,
it has listed the following as disqualifications:solid black, black and white, black
and tan, liver and mouse color.In the FCI (Fédération Cynologique
Internationale) Standard, the term "mouse grey" is used (Mausgrau in German,
gris sourisin French). Since our color disqualifications were added the same
year that a Conference of French Bull Dog Clubs of Europe, at which our club
participated, developed the European countries' standard, it is clear that the
"mouse" in the US Standard referred to the mouse-grey coat color shown by
dogs expressing the recessive "blue dilution" (D/d) gene.
The genetics of canine coat color is complicated because there are several
genetic loci involved, some of which control the color and intensity of the
pigments, and some of which control the pattern of distribution of these colors.
Briefly, there are two types of pigment in dogs— alight pigment (phaeomelanin)
which may range from reddish through yellow to pale cream; and adark pigment
(eumelanin) which is either black or brown. French bulldogs should carry only
the gene for the black type of dark pigment and therefore should have only black
noses, lips and paw pads. Brown pigment in the coat or nose/lips/pads is
unacceptable (and is the "liver" that our Standard deems a disqualification; it is
also a DQ by the FCI standard). The light pigment gives rise to a range of fawn
coat colors — all phaeomelanin, but in various degrees of concentration to
produce the range of pigmentation from red through fawn to cream. Some fawn
Frenchies have a black mask, which is a recognized and acceptable coat.
There is a "pattern" genetic locus that gives rise to brindle coats. Brindle
Frenchies have a base coat of fawn hairs through which black hairs extend in
bands to produce a coat ranging from a "tiger" brindle in which the fawn hairs
predominate, to the more common dark brindles in which the black hairs
predominate. In some of the latter, the black hairs are so numerous that there
may be only a small number of fawn hairs arranged in one or more bands. Our
standard refers to "a trace of brindle," which should have enough fawn hairs to
demonstrate this pattern. There is no such thing as a "brindle hair" since brindle
is a pattern consisting of a mixture of black hairs and fawn hairs.
Another 'pattern" gene produces pied (piebald) in which the coat is white with
pigmented patches most commonly located on the head, tail base, and "saddle".
The pigmented patches may be either fawn or brindle, but in a brindle pied dog
there must be enough fawn hairs visible in at least one of the pigmented patches
to provide the brindle pattern, so that it is not the disqualified "white with black."
Another pattern gene gives rise to black-and-tan (black with tan points), also a
disqualification in both the US and the FCI standard. While there have been
some black and tan Frenchies, these are rarely seen.
The color that has become more widespread in recent years, and which some
are promoting as "rare," is the "blue" coloration caused by the recessive gene
called "Blue Dilution" (D/d). This gene can act on both the dark (black or brown)
and light (red to yellow) pigments.
In a brindle or a brindle pied dog, what should be black hairs (as well as black
pigment on the nose, and paws) is a slatey blue-grey color. In a fawn or fawn
pied (white with fawn markings) dog, the fawn hairs are a silvery fawn and the
nose, the dark mask (if there is one) and paw pads are slatey blue-grey. Any
French Bulldog that has mouse colored hair - whether on a brindle or a fawn dog
- should be disqualified as mouse. The coat color constitutes a disqualification -
as does the nose color.
Although some people find blue Frenchies attractive, neither they nor their
offspring should be sold for show or for breeding, as they all carry a disqualifying
genetic fault. If a blue dog (d/d, with two copies of the recessive "blue gene") is
bred to another blue (d/d), all of the resulting puppies will also be blue (d/d). If a
blue dog (d/d) is bred to a non-blue who is NOT a carrier of the blue gene (D/D),
ALL of the puppies will be carriers of, but will not express, the blue gene (D/d). If
a carrier of the blue gene (D/d), is bred to a non-carrier (D/D), 1/2 of the puppies
will be normal non-carriers (D/D) and 1/2 will be carriers (D/d). If two carriers are
bred together (D/d X D/d), 1/4 of the puppies will be blue (d/d), 1/2 will be
carriers (D/d), and 1/4 will be normal non-carriers (D/D).
Some people mistakenly believe that even though a dog may have a blue dog in
its ancestry, that if no blues have been produced in several generations that
means that their dog can’t be carrying the blue gene. This is wrong. It is not like
mixing paint in a bucket, progressively diluting out the undesirable gene. A
recessive gene will keep passing hidden and unchanged through an infinite
number of generations of carriers. The insidious thing about a recessive gene is
that carriers pass the gene on to about 1/2 of their offspring, producing another
generation of carriers; then those carriers pass it on to 1/2 of their offspring, and
so forth, so that the gene spreads unnoticed through the gene pool as people
unaware of an affected ancestor breed its descendents. It will only surface when
a carrier is bred to another carrier (or to a blue), which happens when people do
linebreeding. This is one of the beneficial things about linebreeding; it exposes
the presence of undesirable recessive genes in a line, so that responsible
breeders can undertake to eliminate them.
French Bull Dog Club of America
Interpretation of the French Bulldog Standard on Color:
The French Bull Dog Club of America would like to clarify what our standard lists
as acceptable colors and disqualifying colors.
The breed standard has included the same color requirements since the 1911
standard was approved by the AKC. It lists as acceptable colors all brindle, fawn,
white, brindle and white, and any other color except those which constitute
disqualification. The following colors are listed as disqualifications: solid black,
mouse, liver, black and tan, black and white, and white with black.
Brindle is one of the most common colors in the French Bulldog. Brindle
Frenchies have a base coat of fawn hairs through which black hairs extend in bands
to produce a coat that can range from a tiger brindle in which fawn hairs
predominate to the more common dark brindles in which the black hairs
predominate. In some dogs, the black hairs are so numerous there may only be
what the French Bulldog standard refers to as a "trace of brindle." This trace
should have enough fawn hairs to demonstrate the brindle pattern. It may be
located in a part of the body that is not visible so if a judge has any concern on
where the trace is, he should ask the exhibitor to point it out. A solid black French
Bulldog without any brindle trace should be disqualified as being black. A dog
with white on the chest, toes, or head and no trace of brindle in the black coat
should be disqualified as being black and white. In the brindle pied dogs
(registered with the AKC as white and brindle) one of the pigmented patches must
have a trace of brindle; otherwise the dog should be disqualified as white with
black. A brindle, brindle and white or white and brindle (brindle pied) French
Bulldog must have a black nose. If a French Bulldogs of any these colors doesn’t
have a solid black nose he must be disqualified.
Fawn in the French Bulldog can range from a reddish color through yellow to a
pale cream. In the lighter colored fawns a lighter colored nose is acceptable but not
desirable. Some fawn Frenchies have a black mask; this is recognized and
The disqualifying colors of black and tan and of liver do occur in French Bulldogs
but can be truly described as rare and are unlikely to appear in the show ring.
The color "mouse" in the AKC standard refers to the mouse-grey coat shown by
dogs expressing the recessive ‘blue dilution’ (D/d) gene. Many people call this
color blue. It has become quite widespread and it’s possible a judge might see a
French Bulldog with this disqualifying color.
In dogs expressing the "blue" gene that produces the color that our standard
•what should be the black hairs on a brindle dog (as well as black
pigment on the nose and paws) are a slatey blue-grey "mouse" color.
•the fawn hairs on a fawn or fawn pied (white with fawn markings)
dog, are a silvery fawn "mouse" and the nose, the dark mask (if there
is one) and paw pads are slatey blue-grey.
•Any French Bulldog that has mouse colored hairs should be
disqualified as mouse.
Mouse can occur as a solid, brindle, pied, fawn and dark masked fawn. The coat
color constitutes a disqualification - as does the nose color.
The French Bull Dog Club of America has a CD that is used as part of our judges
education program that goes into detail on what are acceptable and disqualifying
colors and includes representative photos of these colors.
CAUTION: Please click here to read our Breed Standard, which tells you what characteristics are desirable, and which are considered disqualifications.
A reputable breeder will NOT breed or sell dogs with disqualifying colors. These include "blue," "liver," and black-and-tan (the coat that some dachshunds and that dobermans have).
Although some people advertise and sell (usually for a very inflated price) Frenchies with what they call "rare" colors, particularly "blue," this is considered unacceptable by the FBDCA
we recommend that you seek out breeders who breed to our Standard.
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